Permanent Disposable Email Addresses to counter spam ( alternatives)

As I’ve been writing about this topic not long ago here, I’m using for some time now the services of
Problem is, lately it has become unreliable. Emails that I’ve been told have been sent, never arrived, others arrived with 1 or 2 days delays.
So it’s unusable now.

I spent quite some time yesterday and today to find an alternative. That is a free service, that provides permanent disposable email addresses in he form of forwarding. I couldn’t find any. Not a single one.

And since I don’t want to pay, nor do I want to use the providers interface to access my mail, I re-considered google and yahoo as possible solutions.
Now the main reason against these free and pretty reliable services is that people complain your actual account name is known (anybody can remove the “+garbe” or the “dots” and know what your real account is.

But this is the catch. You are creating another email address, specially for disposable use. You don’t use your main account (EVER) and all email that goes to that account,m via filter, can be sent directly to trash as that is pretty sure spam. After all, you didn’t give out that address to anyone.

So,. since I’m still pissed at yahoo plus their filtering sucks (as in the amount of filter you can set up), however I’m not sure if there are limitations to the disposable addresses that you can create, someone can look into it and let me know, I will talk about the gmail solution.

Now, gmail allows a maximum of 30 characters in the user name. That includes dots when you register. So you register with an account of 30 character, letters and digits.
I used keepass random password generator to generate one for myself.

Then I tested the dots. I added dot between each and every letter/digit and sent an email to that address resulting in an address with 30 characters and 29 dots, form several different email providers. It worked like a charm.

So this gives you a total of (God I hope my math is right πŸ™‚ please correct me if it’s not):
– 0 dot addresses: 1
– 1 dot addresses: 29 = 29! / 1! * (29-1)!
– 2 dot addresses: 29! / 2! * (29-2)! (combinations of 29 taken by 2)
– 3 dot addresses: 29! / 3! * (29-3)!
– 28 dot addresses: 29! / 28! * (29-28)!
– 29 dot addresses: 1

Adding those up resulting in what is described here:

so eventually we end up with a combination of 2^29-1 = 536.870.911 aliases = disposable email addresses.

I think that covers my needs pretty well.

For your more regular 8-10 character addresses, you can have about to 255-1023 dotted aliases. That should normally be sufficient. So there is no real need to go the length of a 30 character address for this purpose.

Next step is to create a catch-all filter on the base (non-dot) alias, and have those emails dealt with some how. I’ll just apply a label for now and move them out of my inbox. If and when I’ll have time and desire to deal with them, I will have them handy.
Once the system is proven to work fine, I will change this filter to “delete”.

The reason for not moving it to spam is that you may get valid email sent to spam by mistake. No spam filter is perfect.

Next step is to have some more easy way of managing these disposable aliases, not using a spreadsheet…

So I’m thinking about a GreaseMonkey script by itself or with a web-service (somewhere to store the information), a dedicated application (written in Delphi and maybe for windows and android/ios (I don’t have anything to test these though)).

My preferred way would probably be a GreaseMonkey script as then I can use the GMail API directly and without hassles. I’ll have to do some research on this.

But for now, the traditional spreadsheet it is πŸ™‚

Later note: One more thing to keep in mind when settings things up:
– you need to add another email address for each dot-alias if you plan on replying to emails received by that alias. You do that by going to settings-accounts and import and “Add another email address you own”.
– make sure to uncheck the “Treat as an alias”
– make sure to select “Reply from the same address the message was sent to” the first time you set up such an alias, otherwise your main, non-dotted account will be used in replies and we really don’t want that

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2 Responses to “Permanent Disposable Email Addresses to counter spam ( alternatives)”

  1. jetchalet says:

    I was reading your blog with interest. Very clever setup! but than i though you’re letting one major point out here. Privacy; the first thing you did this for. Now Google knows all your interests and you forward this to your own private email. Nice profile they’re building. I am looking for the same thing.. havent found one yet..

    • ciuly says:

      More or less. Normally, you wouldn’t employ the use of disposable addresses for valid/real/important things. What’s the point of disposing an address used for something important?
      The general use case here is that you’d like to register to some forum, group, site, etc. which isn’t much trusted by you. So you don’t want to give out your “garbage” email address as the moment you get garbage, you need to change it.
      So you keep your garbage email address hidden behind a disposable address.
      And you keep your real life official email address for the important stuff πŸ˜‰

      So google keeps a good profile on you based on your garbage address, which it could link to your real google account by means of matching up the IPs you are using them from. But in my experience, they don’t do that (I haven’t seen adds/ suggestiosn, etc on my real account searches, based on my garbage account usage).

      Now, if you have $9/year to buy a domain, at NameSilo for example (I won’t give a ref address, I just hate that kind of marketing), they provide 100 free forwards for your domain. So for almost 10 buck a year, you get 100 disposables. What kind of privacy policy does the 3rd party used by NS have.. no idea.

      If you’re into more private stress, then you get some more money for a decent hosting and host your own email sever. (or, if your home connection is decent enough, host it yourself). Both these allow an unlimited number of disposables, but you do have the headache of setting up and maintaining an email server.

      But all in all, for a free solution, it’s working out just fine, in my opinion. BTW, make sure you use, in case of firefox, something like multifox, and make sure you don’t mix the profiles. So keep the garbage account on it’s own identity and the real life account on it’s own. And the disposable one on its own (!)).

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